Post by @stani • Hey
Should Lens be on its own network or rollup?
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- Own network yes, own rollup (not a layer 2 in my opinion). Why? Because lens is going to have to compete with other layer 2s for blob space and I think it’s much better to contribute to a more consistent state publisher. I think it could work either on a supernet or a layer 3 it’s really just a preference that I’d opt for a layer 3 because it’s more secure imo.
- Yes for sure
Lens is spiking gas for Polygon developers since a few months, building there will be easier if Lens is on it's own rollup.
- It's own rollup 🙂
- Vote for a rollup, not an own network. We definitely have to move (up) from Polygon, it doesn't bear the load even during the beta stage of Lens.
Having an own unsynced network looks more like a Web2 platform with API, I believe it kills many advantages of decentralization. Plus, the team would have to focus on another blockchain, affecting the protocol evolution, and re-inventing the wheel.
- My opinion is, I would say yes for multiple reasons, like the cost by action will be reduced, easy to scale to get more users, no trouble in transferring messages threw multiple chains with techno like LayerZero.
But the advantage of Lens is its integration with other dApp threw its modules (Aave for example, and many more to come/build) and this will be less possible with Lens on its own rollup. And the trouble to bridge money (get a big TVL) and we already see this trouble with Optimism, Arbitrum getting less TVL than Ethereum so a specific rollup for Lens would reproduce this trouble.
The only thing I know is if it's not an EVM rollup NGMI I think; because hard to get innovation.
Anyway, if Lens decides to move to its own rollup I'm confident with the goat team building it so I think it would be a well-considered decision.
- Only if it’s EVM compatible imo. Otherwise we’ll lose half of what makes Lens special 🌱
- Why not on ALL chains?
- both, L3
- I generally like the idea of app chains. A chain designed for Aave and Lens could benefit in many ways. For example building it on top of OP stack or Arbitrum Orbit or a side chain of Polkadot.
- Strong no for me. The advantage and network effects of composability with other popular protocols, services, and wallets on the popular rollups will far outweigh the benefit of your own rollup.
Universal rollups are getting better and with eip4844 will be much cheaper than current rollups.
And I think your own rollup probably also means less censorship resistance, and that's another important factor.
- I don't really know tbh
- this very question already fires me up - Network my vote
- Vote for rollup, in one form or another. Better to support/align with the broader crypto community than create a new wheel - even if that would have been a better wheel with lower txn fees ;-)
- que fuerte
- I don’t think so, Matic still looks like the best option
- Why not zkevm polygon? If it has account abstraction it could enroll many more users improving the UX
- How big can it scale in both options?
IMO if it's not able to scale 1B+, we NGMI.
The trade-off here is scalability vs. interoperability.
Devs need to address some interesting problems.
- How about deploying on GnosisChain?
Paying Gas Fees in a stable coin is amazing
- In the long run it would be beneficial to have lens and save on its own network
- I think LENS should have its own network
- I would prefer to be .... bcz i can visualize what's goona be it's real user number which is pretty low right now and it is handleable by polygon though sometimes gas spike occurs by lens user .... if there is a specific chain for lens only it won't be less usable.. i think Zk rollup would be perfect for seamless experience.
- do you mean something like polygon supernets so basically a lens customized chain on top of polygon or you have in mind building something from scratch ?!
- its own chain or rollup, including the storage. either way would be better than the polygon imho, ser
- I think so, and with eigenlayer you ll be able to secure your rollup with the Ethereum consensus...so definitely yes :)
- From what I understand currently Lens gas fee is subsidized by Aave and Polygon, and for this to be economically sustainable when there are way more users, the cost has to be down to near zero. So perhaps an app chain might makes sense
- yes, it should
- I think it is possible to develop a brand new own chain
- I'd love to see that.
- how being on either of those will make any difference?
- Maybe.
Maybe not.
Whichever way is fine by me
- With the current amount of data and individual NFTs, would migration still be afforable?
- Maybe, It's not the right way that Lens builds own network or rollup.
Reason 1: interoperability.
Reason 2: censorship resistance.
- Lens needs move to rollup and made accessible to all users in a timely manner. Many users who do not have a Lens profile are eagerly waiting to use the Lens protocol. However, the current Polygon network is not capable of handling a large number of users simultaneously using the Lens, which leads to high gas costs and lags, resulting in a subpar user experience.
Ideally, Lens should create its own social chain in the future. However, this requires a significant amount of time and effort from the development team to complete. In the meantime, it is important to focus on optimizing the Lens feature to ensure a seamless user experience for those who are using it.
- IMO, for now rollup is fine but for the long term having its own Lens network(EVM compatible) is the right path. A Network that is capable of handling billions of users with minimal gas fees.
- I think it should prioritise interoperability with other networks and protocols. Not sure how it being on its own rollup would help with that.
- The effort that goes into building and maintaining a new chain, better goes to develop the Lens ecosystem.
- Maybe eventually but right now it doesn't seem necessary. What benefits would Lens being a roll-up have over being on Polygon? Right now I think it just adds complexity. On Bankless Mihailo was talking about how they want to make Polygon PoS zk-secure and have seamless messaging between it and other zk secured networks. If that is the case, I think it makes more sense when that is developed.
- Moving to Rollup or developing a Lens Chain both require a significant amount of time and resources. Everything needs to have a well-planned strategy along with the involvement of investors, taking into account the current market situation and general trends.
I believe Stani probably has a plan for this, and if necessary, he must have advisors to make decisions.
- Above all, everything will depend on the budget, the cash flow across the entire Lens platform. If there is enough investment, it will probably be easier to plan.
- It's own lessgoo
- IMO, for now rollup is fine but for the long term having its own network(EVM compatible) is the right path. A network that is capable of supporting billions of users with minimal gas fees.
- Yes.
- Defo yes!!! 💜💜🌿🌿
- lens rollup ?
- lens should be on its own EVM compatible network
- Lens should be on their Own Network if possible. and if you have to choose rollups just go with Arbitrum because IMO it's the only stable and real fast l2 rollup.
- I love it, if Lens be on its own network.
- Hmmm, Lens Rollup?
- Lens network may be better
- don't know what is rollup but i think another network needed, now a days lens ecosystem not works properly due to high traffic